james fenton titanic

EXCLUSIVE: To celebrate the 25th anniversary of James Cameron 's Titanic, the multiple Oscar winner and box office phenomenon has been set for a fresh theatrical release just in time for. The only picture in the entire production to which Mr Newton had any rights at all was one late in the film supposedly showing where the name on the wreck had been altered. had switched ships at layup and that an insurance scam was going on. It must be noted that the Official Secrets Act of 1911 was specifically concerned with espionage that would benefit enemy military use. In Titanic's case, it was likely due to improper ballasting--too much on the port side or too little on the starboard. Most died of exposure in the freezing water of the North Atlantic because there were not enough lifeboats. Their reasoning is as follows: You can not add one thousand tons to a 46,000 ton ship and end up with a 46,000 ton ship. Since they both essentially had the same dimensions, the difference is simply due to revised interior configurations Mark Chirnside writes regarding the bell in his dissertation: "The absence of a name on this bell does not prove that the ship was They were: Californian (19 miles) a Leyland Line, Westbound London to Boston This was the result of a difference in the coal consumption and the emptied coal bunker aft of BR 6 and forward of BR 5The coal bunker was on the starboard side which was emptied. This is where it landed, just on that forewell deck. The boats were left until December 1912 in New York. Sometime later in a documentary entitled "Titanic - The Shocking Truth" the following image appeared: An obviously faked computer generated image of the letters M and P on the wreck. In 33 von 66 Fllen wurde der Preistrger spter mit einem Oscar ausgezeichnet, zuletzt 2022 geschehen, mit der Preisvergabe . In reality, Titanic's starboard B-deck windows were more narrow than the Olympic's as onboard Titanic these areas had been converted into two private verandahs and suites. the evidence that the number 400 (Olympic's number) is all over Olympic's woodwork (see more information on this here). but would have perhaps slowed the rate of sinking. 18. 44. Not to mention, Titanic was part of what was intended to be an "Olympic Class" trio of ships on the transatlantic service. Secondly, and rather importantly, the names were not engraved on the lifeboats. Upon graduation in 1970, Fenton embarked upon a career as a freelance journalist and was hired (1971) to report on literature and politics for the New Statesman. But you do not need any imagination when you view a rather conclusive image that reveals that the 'patchwork' on the wreck does not match the location of the actual damage on the Olympic: Photograph of RMS Olympic showing the location of the damage. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the length of Titanic name's hinting at a cover-up. Crewman refused to sail on Titanic Not content with an insurance scam 'switch' he also proposes that Titanic (really Olympic) hit, not an iceberg, but an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. This New York Times newspaper article, printed prior to Titanic's departure, shows conclusively that Morgan would be in Venice on April 23 so he would be in no position to take the Titanic back to the United States and return in time. He also confirmed that the ship was doing seventy-five revolutions, not 80 as was possible. 2)J.P. Morgan had the power to influence governments, not least the British Government due to aid in the Crimean War. Claim: White Star never had any intention of scuttling the ship. The number 401 on Olympic woodwork While every effort has been made to follow citation style rules, there may be some discrepancies. (Click to enlarge). - Yes. 33. (Click image to see full photograph). He has worked as political journalist, drama critic, book reviewer, war correspondent, foreign correspondent and columnist. Claim: Olympic was fitted with Titanics propeller. So the public and media were certainly not barred from touring her prior to her voyage. According to Britannica.com "on April 11, 1912, the Carpathia departed from New York City for Fiume, carrying some 740 passengers." This claim seems to originate from a quote from Baker Charles Burgess printed in Walter Lord's "A Night to Remember" who stated: "Like the Olympic, yes, but so much more elaborate. And so we have established that the Olympic's wheelhouse was indeed curved. In fact all ships of the Olympic Class (i.e. Although the ship had 14, then later 16, portholes on the port side, she had 15 on her starboard side, and this number remained consistent throughout. answer was to grind the names off the bells. their attention to it, and they all watched it disappear, but had then at once resumed When the Titanic sailed on her maiden voyage in April 1912, the number of passengers that she was carrying was very similar to the number that was booked onto Olympic for her maiden voyage the year before. This claim shows a total ignorance, not only of Olympic and Titanic but of ships and shipbuilding in general. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature and was Oxford Professor of Poetry for the . 11. To presume that Ismay or Morgan had created an intentional design fault is simply absurd for one simple reason: the bulkhead design is the same for both the Olympic and Titanic, so in other words was designed and constructed years in advance of ships the crows nest bell seldom has any writing on it.". RMS Olympic after the collision with HMS Hawke. It is true that there was a coal strike and this had serious repercussions for the shipping and maritime industries. Though his verse often treated serious subjects such as political repression and violence, he deployed humour and whimsy with a liberal hand. Proportionally less than Titanic!" (courtesy Steve Hall), According to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou, "the two additional portholes on Olympic were added about March 1912 during her short stay in Belfast and before the maiden voyage of Titanic. https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-Fenton, The Poetry Archive - Biography of James Fenton, Poetry Foundation - Biography of James Fenton. It is true that Titanic's sea trials were half that of Olympic's. And that there were not binoculars on the Titanic? furniture and panelling was better that the Olympic is not accurate; furnishings and paneling aboard Titanic were, with the exception of unique rooms such as the If he had indeed mentioned it at a presentation why did it not become substantial news at the time? Captain Smith on Titanic Claim: J. Omissions? Toggle navigation. Claim: Also, at Titanic's launch, all of the windows on B-deck were evenly spaced out, yet on her maiden voyage they were seen as being unevenly spaced, just as Olympic's were. Passengers said there were promenades instead of cabins, 32. Claim: Eyewitnesses themselves describe running along Titanics decks, but where they said there were promenades, there should have been cabins. The list is believed to be accurate, but may contain some errors. As in the previous points, we know that damage to the Olympic did not include a 'warped keel'. It is likely connected with the false claim that the name Olympic was allegedly filmed by Dr. Ballard during his 1986 dive to the wreck -proven to be false in point no.38 here. This particular claim began when Robin Gardiner stated in his book that when the name on the bow of the Titanic wreck was cleared of rust (allegedly filmed by Dr. Ballard during his 1986 dive to the wreck), the raised letters 'M, P & Y' were visible. Ultimately, when asked about the Olympic 'switch' theory he went on record as saying the wreck is Titanic. About James Fenton. Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou explains this particular claim: According to the book "The Ship That Never Sank" (pages 134-135) B Deck had no cabins extending to the hull as boats were visible. 'Faux' as in false or imitation. 19. Claim: The Olympic was recorded as having a tonnage of around 45,000, while the Titanic weighed in [sic] at about 46,000. 4. The lifeboat was wrecked in a collision with the Gosport Ferry at Portsmouth and taken by the Royal Navy to Haslar for demolition. J.P. Morgan and 50 others cancel passage These differences meant that Titanic had a slightly higher gross tonnage than her older sister. There is nothing here on which to base a 'switch' theory. THIS IS NOT A THEORY. Lightwood, Stoke-on-Trent - Wikipedia . This is his testimony: I understand it has been stated that the ship was going at full speed. "Wind", the opening poem in James Fenton's Yellow Tulips: Poems 1968-2011, was written over 30 years ago, but could be about any natural disaster or environmental crisis, and most of today's wars . principal constituent of IMM and enjoyed continued prosperity, its profit As it is a montage that was artificially created they could have quite easily ensured that this area was not accurately shown.? 4. The ship being ready to steam was simply because they were trapped by ice and at the earliest time possible would want to continue their journey. rumours of an insurance scam, they would serve a minimum of 20 years in jail Chirnside and Halpern conclude: "There is no doubt that Titanics speed was increased steadily throughout her maiden voyage, revolutions were increased, boilers brought online, and preparations What they seem to miss is that this is clearly a fake, computer generated image, as it doesn't match any other footage ever shot of the wreck let alone the bow section. 3. In 1979 he became a theatre critic for The Sunday Times, for which he also later served as a book critic. B. Ismay know this? The long list of differences is discussed on the previous page here. - Able Bodied Seaman Joseph Scarrott "there was a large quantity of ice and snow on the starboard side of the foredeck Firstly, the coal strike actually finished 9 days earlier on April 6, so normal traffic would have soon resumed. is unfair and disingenuous at best. Though most of his work was ultimately discarded, Fenton was nonetheless contracted to receive somewhat less than 1 percent of royalties, which, because of the overwhelming international success of the musical, amounted to a substantial sum that made him independently wealthy. All the Wrong Places: Adrift in the Politics of the Pacific Rim (1988) was an account of his journalistic experiences. The closest we have is when he is questioned about the binoculars and is asked: 19342. Or is the answer because there is nothing there anyway? Claim: How can a ship with a bent keel go on to serve 24 years (1911-1935) without being fully repaired? Get a Britannica Premium subscription and gain access to exclusive content. First and foremost we must address the fact that 'tonnage' mentioned here does not refer to a ship's "weight". Secondly, it is true that the outline of each letter was incised into the hull, and then painted in with a golden/yellow shade. 1 2. 2nd-class: 200 Claim: Olympic could it is difficult to examine the evidence (if there is any) but needless to say it does sound like hearsay and an attempt to offset A few passengers, 2nd Class passenger Lillian Bentham and Emily Rugg reported that someone jumped it from an upper deck which might have been A Deck. During her construction and in this particular photograph the name was not very clear so the photographer took the liberty of sketching it in, which was not an unusual practice of the day. Of course there is no testimony from Ballard himself, or from any of the other expeditions who would clearly have also seen this. Olympic had a 2 degree list to port, as did Titanic In fact, according to American researcher Jon Hollis, the bell recovered But most tellingly, there is not one eyewitness account of ever seeing ice on the rigging. Harold Sanderson repeatedly referred to Titanic as Olympic He was predeceased by his brother Johnsey (Betty deceased, Shirley) & sister Carrie (Ray deceased). It is clearly in a different area. the boats were returned to England and reused, however boat no.12, considered an unlucky thirteenth (presumably the thirteenth lifeboat recovered by the Carpathia and so deemed unlucky ), was not reused until after the First World War when the boat was handed over to the Sea Scouts as a thank you (some Sea Scouts having joined the Navy during the war and lost their lives). overlook something as simple as the number of portholes on the outside of the ship? But for arguments sake let's take the larger of the two - the certified capacity number of both passengers and crew. The Olympic deck plans show a curved wheelhouse: 2. Even more conclusively, a New York Times newspaper article of Thursday 28th March 1912 reveals that in March "J. Pierpont Morgan has written a cordial letter to This would seem very odd considering the fact that people were paying for Titanic's maiden voyage and not the Olympics maiden voyage. The vessel which sailed out of Southampton on 10 April 1912 can only have been a 45,000 ton ship with the last minute addition of 1,000 tons of GRT in her B Deck public rooms and enclosed area on A Deck. If not, it is a moot point. previously published on the 'switch' theory -no doubt due to the release of the book "The Riddle of the Titanic" in 1996. Cameron's expedition showed it matched Titanic." between eighty and ninety feet.". Author Steve Hall admits it could be the, 48. Local "runners". Firstly Titanic was not a "steel double-hulled vessel". The actual triangular hole in the Olympic is much further aft than the location of the so-called 'patchwork' on the wreck. It is a wild claim based purely on imagination. 1852) and Susannah Haryott (b. Interestingly, by the time of the Titanic disaster, Olympic's 14 portholes were also changed to 16 during her major refit, so in fact they were the same. 37. You do not need to be an expert to see that it certainly does not. Ship's Bell with no name on it the cast iron fireplace with its veined marble surround to still be in place. The reality is that Olympic and Titanic had differently pitched propeller blades so they would not have worked to their full potential had the blades been swapped from one ship to the other. Further volumes of poetry included Out of Danger (1994), which won the Whitbread Book Award (now the Costa Book Award); Selected Poems (2006), a Penguin anthology of his work; and Yellow Tulips: Poems 19682011 (2012), an even broader survey containing previously uncollected verse. The full speed of the ship is 78 revolutions. An example of the many adverts that show the Olympic instead of Titanic - logical considering one was the older sister. There are three key points regarding this claim: 1. Of course there is none. Lack of testimony. 13. Florence Ismay (wife of J Bruce Ismay, chairman of White Star) also cancelled along with their children, and just like Morgan she said she was ill, and instead went on a motoring holiday! - Able Bodied Seaman Edward John Buley also reported a couple of tons of block ice (British Inquiry (Day 16). single-ended boilers in Boiler Room No. Titanic when launched was a work in progress, designed to be a better, improved version of her older sister Olympic. However Southampton, (which had replaced Liverpool as a major international hub) was where transatlantic liners such as what White Star and Cunard operated were based, and hence the crew based in Southampton were experienced, international crew. )", By December 1911, Titanic was fitted with an additional 2 portholes, giving her a total of 16. Additionally, they were not "in the middle of a coal strike". The And how much ice would be on rigging anyway? The crew aboard Titanic from Belfast to Southampton were (except for the deck officers) local operators (or "runners") who mostly worked on voyages that were made locally, and did this with a number of ships, not just Titanic. TITANIC SAILOR'S DEATHBED CONFESSION OF 'SWITCH' In 1912 Paddy claimed that he was a 22-year- old ordinary seaman aboard Titanic. name on it. Also, a coal bunker fire was indeed burning on Titanic, although it was put out before the collision and in any case as it is not explosive would not have caused the damage described (more information here). Even if the insurance would not pay out the $750,000, IMM Marble in the Sitting Room These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the windows on B-deck -which should not be surprising as two private verandahs and suites were added to this section of the ship after its launch. Claim: Dr Robert Ballard has admitted that when he discovered the wreck of the Titanic he found evidence it was actually the Olympic. They would only be interested in shorter crossings. If 'switch' conspiracy theorists believe this is the smoking gun of a switch by Burgess alone, with no collaboration from other eyewitnesses. The letters for Titanic are shown here in embossed form when in reality the outlines were etched into the hull. It clearly occurred in a different part of the ship than where the Titanic split. 41. His theatre reviews were later collected as You Were Marvellous (1983). In 1973 Terminal Moraine (1972), his first full-length collection of poetry, won the Eric Gregory Award. 3 additional double-ended boilers were lit up about 8 a.m. (although they take 12 hours before they are put online) and he was sure that the ships five auxiliary The special effects of the . the shadows of the butt lap is still discernable." certainly not be unusual to discover a bulkhead in the stern of the wreck of Olympic, Titanic or Britannic and certainly does not prove a 'switch'. Difference in Titanic's windows on B deck Actually, it is quite likely true that most of the Belfast 'delivery trip' crew did not sign on for Titanic's maiden voyage. In regard to J.P. Morgan cancelling "at the last minute," research by Mark Baber and posted on Encyclopedia Titanica actually reveals it to be an urban myth. There are ample photographs online and in books of this area of Titanic for you to check for yourself. Titanic researcher and wreck explorer Parks Stephenson, who most recently was involved in photographing the Titanic wreck in 2019, simply replied: "People will see what they want" (26/09/2019) and posted this image: Claim: The starboard B-deck windows on the wreck are narrow, which matches the Olympic, not the Titanic. The fields are mined and the wind blows cold. Take a look at the two photographs and compare for yourself. If a number of people had cancelled because of some sort of fear of a switch or insurance scam going on, it seems very likely that they would have spoken out after the disaster. Why only them? This is one of several undocumented, unreferenced claims. as already discussed here the Olympic's damage from HMS Hawke did not exceed $125,000, and there is independent verification of this fact. It came from a mold and so there should be no surprise they are exactly the same, that is what you expect from faux marble. THIS IS PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE AND IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. 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