According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. LA-Mets Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. You have to remember that any ERA of 3.00 and over back in the 1970's was not a good stat. And by the time he left Detroit, he was fatter than Lolich. Lolich for Staub---it might be the fattest trade in major league history. I remember that the Daily News at the time would have a one-page section on Sunday that showed some of the athletes with their families away from the ballpark. Like Seaver and Koosman, Mickey had pretty meager run support throughout his career. Lolich pitched fairly well with the Mets, in fact I recall a 2-0 shutout at Shea he pitched against the Cardinals in about two hours. Mickey Lolich captured the sporting headlines in 1968 by upstaging Hall of Famer, Bob Gibson, in the World Series. Usually a bad trade doesn't reveal itself as bad until later when the player that came clearly is not working out. All he represents for me was one of the many horrendous choices the Mets have made over the years, always going after washed up has-beens past their prime. October 18, 2008 No contest. August 11, 2015 November 3, 2006 November 12, 2006 I'll take Mickey's pitching line - except for W&L - any time. His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. January 12, 2011 Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. You have to remember that any ERA of 3.00 and over back in the 1970's was not a good stat. He easily could have won 15 or more games with any support at all. He also hit a home run in Game Two of the Series and outpitched Denny "31 Win" McClain in the Series. to realizing he was one of the worst trades in Mets history, before Seaver went to the Reds. Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the You have to remember that any ERA of 3.00 and over back in the 1970's was not a good stat. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. Raymond Malcuit Pitchers have good days and then once in a while they hang a curve? November 3, 2006 The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. As for all the innings Lolich pitched in Detroit, in today's game 300 innings is comparable to two full seasons, what with pitch counts and constantly babying starting pitchers. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. But I think the final verdict has to be that neither team would have fared much differently with or without the Lolich/Staub trade. I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. With the success of the SpaceX Crew Dragon launch did you know NASA had a Lake Orion graduate as one of their astronauts? He normally threw lots of pitches and completed a high percentage of his games. March 5, 2006 How Mickey still had an arm when he pitched for us is amazing. He later resurfaced with the Padres. April 6, 2012 You have to remember that any ERA of 3.00 and over back in the 1970's was not a good stat. August 11, 2015 LA-Mets Lolich was a good one, underrated and dominating at times. Lolich committed to playing 2 years for the Mets, but then reneged on that promise. He pitched over 300 innings for 4 years in a row, coming close to 400 one year. Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. Mickey Lolich is one of my favorite players. But in his final season with the Tigers, he became the all-time leader in strikeouts for left-handed pitchers. But keeping 105-RBI Staub would have provided middle lineup power 100% of the time. June 11, 2003 August 11, 2015 Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. Mickey Lolich was the greatest left handed pitcher in the whole world to me in 1968, He was even greater than Denny. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. Raymond Malcuit He had a 3/4 delivery that thrived on the weight shift. April 6, 2012 Three bad starts on 8/3 and 8/13 as well as his next to last start on 9/15 is what really bloated his ERA, not that 3.22 even in the '70s was that shabby.Yes, he was far removed from his prime but to say he sucked is pretty short sighted and flies in the face of the fact that he pitched well enough to be a 12-15 game winner, but then this is the same year Seaver pitched Cy Young caliber ball and went only 14-11. 170 lbs.? You have to remember that any ERA of 3.00 and over back in the 1970's was not a good stat. He later resurfaced with the Padres. Baseball burnt him out. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. Two quick points that haven't been mentioned:- It was Mike Vail's fantastic debut that led the Mets to believe they had a replacement for Staub. His not being elected to Cooperstown is a major oversight. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. As for all the innings Lolich pitched in Detroit, in today's game 300 innings is comparable to two full seasons, what with pitch counts and constantly babying starting pitchers. Mickey pitched almost 200 innings in 76, gave up less hits than innings and his era was in the low 3.00's. to realizing he was one of the worst trades in Mets history, before Seaver went to the Reds. In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. September 24, 2005 Anybody remember how Rusty looked those last few years in New York? Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. Bobster1985 (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. What a sore disapppointment it was to see Staub take over rightfield (with his gnat's piss arm) after watching Kaline out in right all of those years in Detroit. And yes, maybe Koosman had losing years in the late 70's but he had been a Met long enough with a winning record that the fans rooted for him. As it is, he was traded to a team with a set of already existent aces- Seaver and Koosman. They did not let him pitch the way he wanted. Mickey was at the tail end of his career when he came to the Mets. September 24, 2005 December 20, 2019 According to his profile above, his height and weight are listed as follows:Height: 6.01 Weight: 170170 pounds on a 6 ft. 1 in. That would make him a star in today's market. As far as who got the better of the Staub for Lolich deal: Rusty went on to have several excellent seasons in a Tiger uniform. body would be a pretty slender person. Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. As for his love of donuts, he could have been the prototype for Homer Simpson. November 28, 2001 Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. I agree with Doughnut Shoppe patron. I'll take Mickey's pitching line - except for W&L - any time. And of course Lolich did not want to be here, and the fans did not want him here either, so I am sure that's why he skipped town the next year. April 27, 2013 Within a year, the corpulent Lolich had retired to open a doughnut shop in suburban Detroit. The Staub trade was ridiculous but not Lolich's fault. And Rusty Staub? You have to remember that any ERA of 3.00 and over back in the 1970's was not a good stat. Lolich may have been a great pitcher once, but by 1976 he was a has-been. John Bruce Another guy who didn't get enough run support, and - yes - he ended up being blamed for the Staub trade rather than Grant himself. I simply loved to see him walk onto the mound; I knew that we as a ball club would be a winner any time he pitched, but as they always say time moves on, but our memory is always around. Visit the Crane Pool Forum to discuss the Mets and just about anything else! HmmBaseball Reference.com is usually beyond redoubt, but I would say with almost unimpeachable certainty that Mickey Lolich weighed somewhere in the vicinity of 240 by the time he was huffing and puffing his way up the pitchers mound at Shea in 1976.Another awful trade, courtesy of M. Donald Grant, who couldn't wait to run Rusty Staub (coming off a team-record setting 105 RBI season) out of town, weeks after Mrs. Payson passed away. April 6, 2012 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. Mickey Lolich did not pitch badly for the Mets in 1976. He started 45 games and completed 29. The plan was apparently: Vail LF/RF, Kingman LF/RF/1B, Milner, LF/RF/1B for those three spots. But I have to say, I laughed out loud when I saw his physical statistics on this site. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. Well, I never realized that Rusty Staub was such a favorite in New York, beside the old Tigers announcer George Kell always making a fuss over Rusty Staub's New York restaurant. His three wins in the 1968 Series against the Cardinals were the apex of his career. All the wins, all the losses. God bless him wherever he is and good luck! No contest. There were some games where the Mets did not give him support. Doug S. Let me say that again, 376 and that's without a pitch count. October 4, 2006 Although Mick was not the same pitcher in NY that he was in Detroit, everyone seemed to like the guy. He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. In this World Series, Lolich pitched three complete games and allowed only five runs an ERA of 1.67. Joe was hit by a Bob Moose pitch to drive in the tying run, but the '76 Mets couldn't stand such success, as two singles and a double play grounder by future Mets coach Bill Robinson in the top of the 10th off Skip Lockwood gave the Bucs a 2-1 win. Dianna Jeanneh Jones Thanks for the memories, Mick! I have to respectfully disagree with NYB Buff's claim that Lolich belongs in Cooperstown. Lolich was a fine pitcher. He lost 39 games his last two seasons in Detroit, with an obese ERA both years. Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. August 7, 2018 He started 45 games and completed 29. Bobster1985 God bless him wherever he is and good luck! Maybe when he was 15 years old he was 170, but at no point in his major league career was he ever 170. December 8, 2006 Well, I'm the president of a company. After one year in New York Lolich retired. An E.R.A of 3.22 in the mid 70's was still pretty respectable. That's pretty good this day in age. McLain got all the publicity but Lolich got the wins in post season 1968. Reading this brings back my memory of the trade that sent Rusty packing to Detroit. Mickey liked his doughnuts. July 15, 2016 June 11, 2003 But this one defied all logic from the beginning. May 25, 2001 snook The trade was a great one for the Tigers and yet another whopper in a long history of bad trades for the Mets. Bartolo Colon etc). An interesting thing about Lolich that I remember from an old Mets program is that he's actually right handed. Cut him some slack. Mike B March 2, 2003 That's pretty good this day in age. Or even a platoon as Vail was righty, and Milner was lefty.In the days of 4-man rotation, Seaver-Koosman-Matlack had them covered 75% of the time. My memory is that while the Mets' front office had made dumb and abysmal trades in the past, this was one that just made no sense in any way, shape, or form. August 7, 2018 I'll take Mickey's pitching line - except for W&L - any time. Bartolo Colon etc). September 25, 2013 Lolich finished his career 12th on the all-time strikeout list with 2,832, second only to Steve Carlton among left-handers. In his first full season 1964, Mickey Lolich went 18-9 an ERA of 3.26. (With three lefties and a Seaver, the Mets were lefty killers) But the Mets needed hitting. I still have it somewhere. I look at his numbers as a Met and they're not bad. 3.50 was more of a mediocre E.R.A in those days.About his profile of 6'1" and 170 lbs., I looked him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia and that's what they have. March 18, 2001 July 15, 2016 Mickey Lolich did not do too bad with the Mets, He just did not get the Peter He refused to answer roll call at team meetings ("The coach could see I was right there"). Lolich may have gone 8-13 in 1976 but Koosman did even worse the next two years (1977 and 1978). Well, I never realized that Rusty Staub was such a favorite in New York, beside the old Tigers announcer George Kell always making a fuss over Rusty Staub's New York restaurant. Its not Rustys fault the Tigers traded for hitting when they already had hitting. Rusty has always been a fan favorite so if you're going to trade him it better be worth it, and to most of us Mets fans Lolich wasn't. Mickey Lolich did not want to come to the Mets. That's pretty good this day in age. More information Mickey Lolich More like this Birch Run Frankenmuth Bacon Burger Tonys Visitors Bureau Most Favorite Favorite Places Traverse City Banana Split Mickey liked his doughnuts. Bob P Then they all got old and the team slid into rebuilding- different than the Mets? Ok, the height is correct but make no mistake,a consistent, determined winner, Mickey Lolich was in the spotlight throughout his career. Lolich was a fine pitcher. 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